NHPC XC League positions

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:12 pm

http://www.nhpc.org.uk/nhpc/modules.php ... ardo&cat=1

Click on the above then click open distance

Well the way it looks at the moment is if Ian pays his subs he's gonna win it. If Ali puts all his flights in he'll also be very close or better. The Ginger weather guru is lying third and below that is still well open for the scraps. I personally hope Ali doesn't hold back with all his flights and lets someone else win who hasn't flown as far. I hope Ian pays his subs and give Ali a run for his money, the best pilot must win and that is the standard the rest of us have to beat. I would hate to be in second or third place when the guys above are holding their flights back so someone below them can win, what's the point it's an empty victory. To be the best you've got to beat all pilots in the club and then it's special. So come on XC gurus get all your flights in pay your subs and let's have a real club champion and not a pretender.

The weekend is supposed to be good weather so it's not over until the fat lady sings.

Post by **gary stenhouse** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:38 pm

why not see if burkit will join and richard westgate and martin sandwith that way we will realy find out who the best is, but as it is based on mainly flying local sites to us then it kind of looses the plot. the best pilot is the person who on average flies the furthest on the same day on the same hill.
cheers gary

Post by **gary stenhouse** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:14 pm

we all no who is the best pilot if he gets out flying, but oftern he does not get the same chances as some of us lesser pilots. i know who is the best but it doesnt always mean they always want to winn? as for ian he has always said that he feels it would be unfair to be in for the club comp as he lives in scotland and mainley flies up there and feals that it would not be right to take all the prizes up north. i think that this is an honerable thing to do as you could just start joining every club that you know you could winn and take all the prizes.

the season can still offer some quite large ridge runs though i know that ali has more flights to offer, so they would only be in vein. at the end of the day i dont care as i am not any longer in a rush, and hopefully have a long time left to improve. you can only get good quickly but to be a allround pilot it will take many years.

dont forget the hg leugue aswell as we still have got that to look forward to. and if the weather ever improves we may get a club comp up and runing as well.

Post by **colin keightley** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:44 pm

I think this is another one of those dangerous debates and unless your aim is to have a set of rules for competitors put in place then is best left alone

AlastairW · Post by **AlastairW** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:43 pm

i dont care as i am not any longer in a rush, and hopefully have a long time left to improve.

Yiou have me worried Mr Stenhouse.......

Have you been taking drugs or something?????!!!

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:53 pm

I think this is another one of those dangerous debates and unless your aim is to have a set of rules for competitors put in place then is best left alone

Eh? Dangerous?

Ian and Ali are both NHPC members through and through and in my opinion they are the boys to beat. If you want to call yourself NHPC Champion it's quite simple fly more than them. (Much easier to type than do) As for pilots in other areas joining our club to win our trinkets well that would just be sad.

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:10 pm

http://www.nhpc.org.uk/nhpc/modules.php ... ion&comp=1

Click open distance

Result! Now we're cooking..........

Post by **colin keightley** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:19 pm

I totally agree john

what I meant was it could end up in an argument like the honourary membership.

And gary your theory doesnt work. You could fly our sites all year but if your 6 best are 2 from Glencoe 2 from the mynd and 2 from the dales somewhere is that somehow different.

Gary Just how many of your 6 Open distance flights are from NHPC sites (And before everyone goes to the XC league to find out its 3 the other 3 being 2 in scotland and 1 in the dales) point is doesnt make you any worse the pilot.

I think as long as its the pilots first club the one he remains loyal to where his heart is.

ron freeman · Post by **ron freeman** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:47 am

Don't worry yourself Colin... John is always saying 'its all just a bit of fun'....

Flying XC is just one of the many disciplines in flying, it does not make you the best pilot in any club... everyone has there own unique technique when it comes to flying and we all enjoy something different everytime we fly.

So I think that we are all champions !

Post by **gary stenhouse** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:55 am

i am not bothered if i was to win with or without peoples flight as it is about the year in question not just about all time. as for those who were not members for the last 2 years then yes it would feel strange that at the last minute you could find when you thought you had won then you have now not. the national xc league is based on who manages to get the time of to fly at the right time . though there is a top 10 suspects who are always there or there abouts but there always is a different winner every year as it seems to be which part of the country is best to produce the best flights.

but put all them same people up against each other on the same hill and there would always be a out and out winner over a season.

the truth is i am not in such a rush to winn as this year circmstances had to be changed, also nearly dying kind of slows you down.

dont get me wrong though i am still very hungry to be the best i ca be but i have not got the hunger to be out there to beat otheres. and this is not something new i like competition in small doses but once it ets personal it stresses me so normaly back of and remember why i am doing the sport. yes and that is to enjoy myself and do what i love and that is to go out flying

cheers gary

Kitt Rudd · Post by **Kitt Rudd** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:35 am

Just back from my travels and thought I should join the NHPC, as it seems to be a very hospitable club with many characters, as well as having some interesting sites (If Ronnie is to be listened too). However on reading this thread I am now inclined to wait, as I do not want to be accused of being a sad trinket grabber.
Maybe for your club xc league you should follow the CSC league and only include flights from within your area and from pilots who are fully paid or honary members, this way it is clear who is able to skive off the most from work within your club

CSC's top skiver

ron freeman · Post by **ron freeman** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:58 pm

Hello High flyer, I don't think we have met but you are more than welcome to come flying with me in the Cheviots and I will show you some fantastic sites !

I don't give a jott if nobody listens.... I will always defend 'OUR CLUB' sites that I love to fly.

We are starting to fly the west side of the Cheviots hills more and more and the potential for out & returns & triangle are huge.

I like your point of club xc league flights should be on your own sites, I have always thought this.

Happy flips.

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:10 pm

Maybe for your club xc league you should follow the CSC league and only include flights from within your area

Kitt if we did that we wouldn't have an XC league. I might be wrong but I don't think we've had an XC entered from a Northumbrian site this year (I stand to be corrected) Having said that it's been naff most places.

Post by **colin keightley** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:04 pm

I know Cross fell isnt in northumbria but it is one of our sites and both you and gary have gone XC this year from there havnt you.

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:16 pm

I should have said Cheviots

I had realised I'd been XC from Cross Fell I was just trying to point out that there's not much happened from the Cheviots this year.

We're a funny old bunch the Northumbrians. We are a tight knit active club but we hardly ever fly our own sites and not many people want to come and try them....I wonder why?

brian day · Post by **brian day** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:05 pm

I might be wrong but I don't think we've had an XC entered from a Northumbrian site this year (I stand to be corrected) Having said that it's been naff most places

Yep, you're wrong John, sorry! I got one in early from Akeld via the Bell and errr, the other little one near Wooler.

Neil · Post by **Neil** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:36 pm

I can see this ending in tears

Post by **gary stenhouse** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:42 pm

i also got over 3k out the back at moneylaws, though i do think if we get a decent se before october then hownam may be possible for a small xc season end.

gordie · Post by **gordie** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:22 pm

We would be delighted to host you guys this weekend, considering most of you are memers of the CSC it would be very rude not to. All northern sites are open at the moment, however if you intend to use any southern ones then please contact Andy Plim.

We do have a policy of site usage policy for comps that they follow the schools example and pay the relevent farmer £5 per person per day. However this is designed more for high usage issues such as the nationals, for your situation maybe a bottle of something for the farmer might be a kind gesture.

Bottom line though is that we are all desperate to get in any flying and x.c.'s this year, and the more wind dummies the better! Infact it is about time we let all the locals know we are still here.

ron freeman · Post by **ron freeman** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:00 am

Think its bloody brilliant that most of our members fly other sites most of the time, it leaves this beautiful place to the few that fly them all to ourselves.... also great for the school...

gordie · Post by **gordie** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:10 am

Is it also not true Ron that all thoughts 'members' have flown a lot further XC then you in the last three years or so, wonder why that is?

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:17 am

As Dick Emery would say " Gordie You are awful But I like you"

ron freeman · Post by **ron freeman** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:46 pm

Its also true Gordie that I have most of our XC site records, so until someone tries to beat them.... I'm as happy a larry

Now pi..off and pick on someone in your own club there is bound to be someone flying with no ratings or insurance

and don't forget to take that parot with you

NHPC Private and Public Forum

NHPC XC League positions

NHPC XC League positions

Don't worry Colin...

local xc leagues

Hi

More than happy...

Its also true