New coastal site maybe ?

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New coastal site maybe ?

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St Abbs very impressive place !
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I've looked at it a few times, but bottom landing options are a bit iffy?
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Maybe ye could trade your quad in for a rescue launch Ron ?
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Water wings are much cheaper than selling the bike.. Graham :wink:

Seriously though.. there are places to land at the bottom when the tide in out.
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I'm pretty sure St Abbs has been flown before by Quentin of the LLSC/SMPC. I'm sure he mentioned that he's related to the land owner......
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The Lothian club do fly the northerly site and the local farmer is happy to see us there. The northerly side is much more user friendly with grass slopes for hillside landings :wink:
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Ron that shot of st Abbs is included on the benfield vw spring sale being shown on itv at the moment , keep an eye out for it
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Don't forget St. Abbs head is a nature reserve guys. Wildlife and Marine.
It's a very important nesting site for the birds and i would imagine there would be hell on if we were flying round the head.
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Spoke to the National trust in St Abbs Bob and they were OK with flying the area as long we and stay away from nests (ie T/O & landing)

I do fancy a go at the northerly side 'Dowlaw'
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Let me know when your coming up Ron.
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hi Ron ... its a lovely place I paddled my kayak from Eyemouth around st Abbs head and on to Pease bay, its a fantastic coast .... your photograph is looking towards petticowick bay, I used to scuba Dive there regular its fantastic and brings back good memories. As for flying!! not really sure .... like bob says, best seeking out the twtchers.
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looking at the weather for sunday then if this is a northerly then it should be on tomorrow, so may be worth a trip up after all in the land of opportunity and right to roam.
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gary stenhouse wrote: so may be worth a trip up after all in the land of opportunity and right to roam.
But not the right to fly :roll:
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you have got the right in scotland but not in england unless there is another reason like a farmer with a shot gun but you do have the right
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the forecast today is looking nne and looking at google then i would say park up at st abbs then walk along the walk untill you find a suitable take off looks like the best ption as there is no other buildings around. and after all i pay a lot more tax than any birds so tinks i should have more rights :shock:
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Tax!!!!, Gary i thought you were one of the elite that didn't pay tax just made "charitable contributuions" :D
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well what a great day and no tax inspector insight but we did get permision first
and on the way home all the little lambs were fast asleep, that was after afternoon tea at Saint Abbs
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Great day, great place, great company, great crack !
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looks like a good day fir the magic bus crew.
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My kids used to fall asleep after a day at the seaside as well, but they looked a lot more angelic than this lot!
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meditation i beleive as they say that they were not really asleap

enough to scare the kidds away :lol:
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Stenhouse leads the way yet again :)
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Pleased to see you all had a good day Gary and you thought right.. to ask the farmer to fly.. :wink:
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must say there is 6 cottages for rent next to the farm as well and also out the back yet another wind farm, take off is 600ft ttb. and off to the left there is safe landing options and with 600 feet no problem. also i am sure that on a good day then open xc will be possible though the wind farm may be interesting but the ground behind is baking heather to produce thermals.

must say breath taken when you take off and fly over the sea and look down over the vast cliffs, then to the north there is even a old mine down on the beech that would of been great to investigate.

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http://www.ramblers.org.uk/scotland/our ... -scotland2

From the 'right to roam' legislation / The Scottish Outdoor Access Code.

Farmland: access rights apply to fields but not to grassland being grown for hay or silage if it is above ankle height. Field margins are included in access rights, even if sown with a crop. When crossing arable fields use the tracks or “tramlines” made by tractor wheels, or any unsown ground. Avoid disturbing farm animals, especially where young or aggressive animals are present.


some information for scotland that we do not have in the UK however always deal with caution as a shot gun is a shot gun and not worth shouting your rights even if your right.

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Nothing in there about right to fly Gary, where did you get the information about the right to fly in Scotland ?

If I decide to fly anywhere I would always get the landowners permission first so he knows what is going on and most importantly he know that you are there in case of an accident.

It can be very embarrassing for the landowner if there is an accident on his land and he never knew you were there..
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There is no right to fly in the Scottish r2r, it just doesn't include it as an activity which is not allowed as the English one does
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i think that is the key you have the right to enter land and carry out activity that does not harm the land. permision is great as long as it is obvious where to go and ask, however sometimes you may be taken off on one site but flying over several other farms along the way.

the english right to roam specificaly says that you do not automaticly have the right to fly a paraglider or hg, i mean a few thousand people fly in the UK and most not active yet they put that in the right to roam. unbeleivable thate the goverment even thought about the sport given 99% of the population have never even seen a pg or hg

i do beleive that farmers do not like roamers due to there somewhat harsher atitude to roaming so i think in a lot of cases we would be ok if you use discretion.
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para 2.7 section 9 of the Scottish Outdoor Access Code states clearly that under recreational activities the right to roam includes rights in the air and underground as long as it is a non motorised airsport.

http://www.outdooraccess-scotland.com/o ... vice/soac/

Click link above for the full code PDF

also the Scottish Outdoor Access website clarifies it a little further below

http://www.outdooraccess-scotland.com/o ... ir-sports/

There are exceptions where buildings and livestock or the land is zoned off for other purposes but the Code seems to suggest you can go where you want and fly within reason.
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Post by John Watson »

Hey thats spot on Glenn :) Theres a hill in the borders which i was turned down to fly off, despite being used just for grazing sheep. I should maybe talk to the farmer again.
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