Club trophies

[gary stenhouse]

Well I think the hangliding is going to be quite easy to sort out as there is only Alan with flights on the board yet I was sure Wendy and Dave Hume had a couple of xcs. So if you have any flights put them on or it will be too late.

As for the paragliding I think we are more or less sorted though it is still possible for a slight change.

Must add I am still not fully sure as Ali gutherie has stated he no longer wants to take the trophy this year. So it looks like we may be loosing it to the lakes? Any how I think we are still missing a few trophies mr gutherie?

Cheers Gary

[ron freeman]

Gary, I don't understand when you say losing the trophy to the lakes.. Burkitt Rudd has won it if he is a club member if not Gary Wirdman (hanggliding) is the champion.

[gary stenhouse]

Tony has though if we had used old three turn then I would, not to worry may be next year.

The thing is, when you are a member of multiple clubs it's do you qualify to win in all clubs? Or is it yor chosen club?

Cheers Gary

http://www.xcleague.com/xc/leagues/2010-1.html?vx=30

[ron freeman]

Gary, Gary Wirdman has come second but what we need to do for the future is - there should be some flights from NHPC club sites..

[brian day]

I don't think pilots should be concidered for our 'club' trophies if they enter their flights on the National league and compete in other competitions for other clubs.
What do other people think?

[Bradleisure]

Ali do the honorable thing and make an honest club out of her by accepting what you deserve.

Just for information the only club I've represented in competition as a conscious decision was the thing before the N54S at Model for.....

On a serious note please keep posting your flights Ali et al even if next year you would like someone else to have a turn with the cup as they're great to learn from.

[gary stenhouse]

No I am happy with the outcome as for me it has been by best open xc year with my first triangle biggest cross fell flight longest northumbrland site and the fifty pounds cheviot challenge . However the hangliding is a joke only coastal flights entered yet double the amount of trophies than paragliders.

I still think next year we compete on olc three turn point and though it gives an advantage early in the winter season on coastal by summer comes it will not.


But like you say if Ali is a member then he should take the trophy

However if this year was based on weekends only then I kicked all your asses
Cheers Gary

[gary stenhouse]

http://www.xcleague.com/xc/leagues/2010-1.html?vx=40

Yep I end upn31 place as all my flights were done on a weekend or after 6pm

[ron freeman]

Gary, can you explain why you think Ali has won it..

[gary stenhouse]

http://www.nhpc.org.uk/nhpc/modules.php ... ompetition

Hi Ron this is when you filter the xc league to nhpc flights only, as you sea this only leaves Ali at the top. Makes it simple when you use the filter I had forgot that this was available

Cheers Gary

[gary stenhouse]

http://www.nhpc.org.uk/nhpc/modules.php ... ardo&cat=2

This is the hg league filtered

[ron freeman]

Gary the only filter you use is - UK flights only & 2010

The NHPC xc league has always been your best six flights, calculated open distance, (summer league) and anywhere in the UK.

As long as Burkitt is a current NHPC club member then he is the NHPC 2010 club xc league champion.

[gary stenhouse]

He is not a member but you have to choose what club you are batting for as Ali is a member of dales and does not enter I am a member of the lakes and do not enter and if you filter the clubs you will see that Ali is in the Leeds cheers gary

[gary stenhouse]

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3 Turn Point DistanceOpen DistanceOLCFAI TriangleDurationAltitude gain

3 Turn Point Distance (6 best flights)
#
Pilot
Total distance km #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6  
1
Alistair Guthrie
395.8 103.5 93.8 84.0 42.1 37.2 35.2
2
gary stenhouse
251.9 82.5 43.0 34.3 32.1 32.0 28.0
3
Brian Day
169.5 52.9 27.0 25.0 23.4 21.6 19.6
4
RonDon
164.2 31.3 29.0 28.4 26.5 25.2 23.8
5
Jim Bittlestone
146.9 36.2 31.8 23.6 19.6 18.1 17.7
6
Paul Myerscough
121.8 31.1 27.2 17.1 16.0 15.8 14.6
7
Colin Chapman
105.0 33.9 29.8 11.4 10.1 10.0 9.9
8
Chris Little
104.1 19.1 18.6 17.4 17.0 16.8 15.2
9
Kay
92.9 27.3 16.7 16.5 14.5 9.6 8.3
10
chrisfozz
79.2 31.0 13.9 13.2 11.7 5.2 4.1
11
wendy patterson
74.9 22.6 12.4 11.6 10.4 10.1 7.8
12
Jan Little
68.5 17.3 16.4 10.5 8.8 8.0 7.4
13
Colin Keightley
67.7 27.2 19.2 6.8 5.4 4.7 4.5
14
Bill Scott
58.9 17.8 12.4 12.1 9.7 6.8 -
15
MadDog
40.4 40.4 - - - - -
16
Neil Smith
23.1 18.9 4.3 - - - -
17
alan westmoreland
23.0 8.0 4.4 3.8 3.1 2.1 1.7
18
Davehorne
8.0 3.6 2.3 2.0 - - -

[gary stenhouse]

Open Distance (6 best flights)
#
Pilot
Total distance km #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6  
1
Alistair Guthrie
334.5 99.6 90.0 72.3 37.9 20.0 14.9
2
gary stenhouse
203.1 78.7 33.2 25.9 23.2 21.0 21.0
3
Brian Day
127.9 50.5 24.4 16.2 13.8 12.6 10.4
4
Jim Bittlestone
127.3 34.9 24.9 20.6 17.8 14.8 14.3
5
RonDon
86.7 27.2 19.2 16.1 10.4 7.0 6.8
6
Paul Myerscough
76.4 28.1 13.1 11.7 8.8 7.7 7.0
7
Chris Little
64.4 14.6 14.0 11.4 10.4 7.9 6.1
8
Kay
63.9 21.8 11.4 10.8 9.5 5.9 4.6
9
chrisfozz
49.8 23.5 10.0 5.9 5.8 2.5 2.0
10
Colin Chapman
42.6 14.8 6.6 6.1 5.9 4.6 4.6
11
Jan Little
38.6 11.5 11.1 5.4 3.8 3.6 3.2
12
Colin Keightley
35.0 14.5 7.2 6.0 2.9 2.3 2.1
13
MadDog
33.3 33.3 - - - - -
14
wendy patterson
30.2 11.6 4.7 3.9 3.9 3.2 2.8
15
Bill Scott
19.2 7.0 4.2 3.8 2.3 1.8 -
16
Neil Smith
13.7 12.1 1.6 - - - -
17
alan westmoreland
5.2 2.2 1.1 0.6 0.6 0.6 0.2
18
Davehorne
5.0 2.4 1.4 1.2 - - -

[Jim Bittlestone]

now im a bit confused.
Tony can be a member of as many clubs as he wants and enter the national xc league for any one of those clubs surely?
The flights he or any other member puts on the nhpc league count towards any nhpc competition surely?
The flights are measured using open distance.
Can someone please clarify this?
Am i alone in thinking this?....
I thought it was
1. Ali
2. Tony
3. Gary

[gary stenhouse]

Basicly could not give a ants chuff but you have to choose on the national for which club your batting against, so I we are using are league with are filter then why don't you take on the trophies Jim. This is why we set up the league for nhps against other clubs but now we have to take that away.

I am pretty sure if this was not the case then why not join every club in the uk and then win the trophies from every club. You would soon bie told that it is not cricket. It's simple if you are competing for the nhpc trophies then you need to enter as that or other wise you will be filtered out.

[Jim Bittlestone]

Totally disagree.
Any club member should be able to enter any club comps, what they do elsewhere is up to them.
Tonys had a great year, happens to live in Cumbria, supports 3 clubs i beleive, good on him.
To change rules or enter new rules at the 11th hour is not on in my view.
Just my opinion and my understanding of the current standing.

[gary stenhouse]

It is simple enter as a nhpc member miskin is not a member kit is not a member Brian dub is not. It is simple. I do not have a nhpc members list so the filter is designed to make it easy, as is gps flights only. There is no 11th hour change at all we have always stated that you must upload flights so that they can be counted still people are not doing it. Ali has chosen not to be in the club comp this year, and the only reason why he has put his flights on was I asked him too for others to see and learn. Don't panic Jim you still are in number one spot for the 1-2 class so we have not changed the rules to stop those who change wings mid season to 2 class to be void.

[Paul Smith]

I agree with Jim on this one, if you are a nhpc member and put your flights up they should be counted nomatter who you fly for in the nationals..

[Jim Bittlestone]

its not me thats panicking.
And if you want to void me like youve voided tony, fill your boots.
Wouldnt surprise me either.

[gary stenhouse]

Jim Tony has not been voided the question has been raised about the nhpc league and members. The system was started for a inter league competition and other non members put on there flights. This being the case then if you join and are in for the club trophies then you register as nhpc league. I think if you really believe that I am trying to cut out Tony so I can win then you are mistaken, and deluded I am happy with the standings and what I achieved on weekend flying only so over 200 k is my personal best and given any day and given site I know where I can be. This is not a us and them it's just how the league filters and doling and Tony will change his status to nhpc member.

Plentybofnwords out there yet there no one willing to take any of these jobs for the club even though I am working 60 hour week running a business not able to sleep a night shift and go flying the next day the job on as I did not want it yet no other Fu. Cker would take it.

[ron freeman]

Gary, if you had told me that Burkitt is not a member of our club it would of saved a lot of confusion.. as I did ask in my first reply to your post.

So Gary Wirdman (hanggliding) is the NHPC XC league Champion.

Well done ! Gary Wirdman

Jim, I was asked by the club 5 years ago when I was the Comp officer to get a trophy for the NHPC XC league competition

This trophy was for our Club members (HG or PG) to compete in an annual event, your best six flights through out the UK are accumulated for the eventual winner from Jan 1st to Oct 31st (open distance)

All pilots who are BHPA members can enter their flights on our forum XC league (if site registered & its great to see their flights & study them) but its only fair to our current club members that if you would like to be eligable for any prizes or trophies you have to be a member of this club.

The National XC league is entirely up to each individual if they want to enter their flights which I think everybody should but don't ?

Cheers.

[gary stenhouse]

This is something that you may find interesting for what seems to be the norm for other clubs.
For the dales and Cumbria they take the flights from the nxl, and use that as there league, however they only count the flights that have been done on their sites or joint sites like cross fell. This I think then make sense of the whole mater and why Ian decided it was not fair living in Aberdeen and competing for club trophies. As we do not have this as are format then therefore any one joining are club is entitled to win the trophies even if they were ever to fly any Northumbria sites.

By the way I am 3rd in the Cumbria league and did not even know I was in it

[brian day]

At the moment on the National XC league we have Gary in 60 something and me at 100 n something. If I was reading this as an outsider I would presume we we're a right bunch of whingers that can't fly. (which in my case is probably true)
I know the Nat xc league isn't top of everyones agenda, but it does appear in skywings and will be looked at by new pilots. Now if we had all the members who claim to be NHPC members entering as such we would look like a lot better club with better prospects for new pilots.
I'm an NHPC member first and foremost and proud to say I am.
Come on guys fly the flag for the best club,,,,,,,,that's this one!

Or redefine the club membership rules,
Northumbria - north of the Tyne, East of Hexham and South of the boarder.
Applicants from heathen areas outside the boundary will be concidered for entry to the inner sanctum, only those that can prove allegance will be allowed in!

[Jim Bittlestone]

Have you changed the rules to allow powered PG flights on xc league as well?

http://www.nhpc.org.uk/nhpc/modules.php ... ghtID=5292

[Misk]

What's the row about?

Isn't Gary saying enter as whatever club you want in the NXCL, it doesn't matter.

BUT on this forums league if you are a NHPC member and want your flights counted for the tin pots then make sure you have NHPC as your club in your profile. It makes his job so much easier than comparing names to membership lists.

Rule changes can't be retrospective. If you want it to be NHPC site's only then thats for next year.

GaryW is a member so should have his flights counted.
AliG is a member so should have his flights counted

- there's your winners, if you want to beat them then fly better (allot better!)

[ron freeman]

Jim, powered flights (HG & PG) have always been accepted on our club league and why not they are members of our club and they like also to see their flights on the board.

Obviously these flights don't count for the free flying section but if we can get more powered members involved we should organise a competition for them also

For next year I propose that at least 3 flights of your best six should be from a NHPC site

[John Wallis]

For next year I propose that at least 3 flights of your best six should be from a NHPC site

NHPC sites Like Crossfell? You can't possibly mean those small tit like hills in the Cheviots where the sea breeze always comes in and *ucks the day.

[colin keightley]

Rule changes can't be retrospective. If you want it to be NHPC site's only then thats for next year.

GaryW is a member so should have his flights counted.
AliG is a member so should have his flights counted

- there's your winners, if you want to beat them then fly better (allot better!)

I believe Ali requested last year not to take part this year his words were he was taking some time out